If you are interested, the USPS has a document specifying exactly the kind of forces these things go through and how to avoid them. I believe the main points are that the letters go under a certian amount of pressure, and are bent around corners at a certian minimum radius (5-8inches or so). There are two ways to make sure it doesn't meet the machine, make it too long/tall/wide/heavy, or put a specific sticker on it (Though I've seen stickered mail go through the ringer anyway). I suspect it's all automatically presorted by machine according to size. -Adam Joe Farr wrote: >Roman, >I never knew about the squishing rollers etc. > >That explains why my favourite electronics supplier always ships my one-offs in a padded bag and charges me 1.50 post and packing. Something that up till now, has really bugged me. >The more 'reputable' companies should perhaps mention why they insist on padded bags so that uninformed people like me don't get annoyed with them, IMHO. > >Thanks for the info. > >Joe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Roman Black [mailto:fastvid@EZY.NET.AU] >Sent: 03 August 2002 09:01 >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: [OT]: Argh! (feel free to ignore) > > >Russell McMahon wrote: > > > >>If they charge what they said they were going to charge for postage and sent >>what one ordered then there can be little complaint. When they don't send >>what was ordered (assuming one checked first that it was in stock) then >>complaint about the cost is entirely justified - always IMHO of course. >> >>Bent pins are inexcusable and suggest a general lack of concern which could >>suggest other bad practice such as lack of proper antistatic handling. Maybe >>they are trying to discourage his future business :-) >> >> > > >One thing to remember with all devices mailed is >there are two basic mail handling systems; > >* Parcel mail is for ANYTHING over 6mm (1/4") thick. >* Letter mail is for letters only, must be under 6mm > >The letter mail gets fed into sorting/routing machines, >you may have seen them on TV etc, where they are fed >at high speeds through rubber rollers, machine reads >the postal (zip) codes and routes the letters directly. > >Parcel mail is (generally) sorted by hand. > >NEVER send chips etc in something that can fit through >a 6mm slot and may be mistaken for letter mail. It will >get squished at high speed by 50 big rubber rollers. :o) >Using a padded bag should be fine. > >Now when a professional mail order supply firm makes >basic mistakes like that, THEY KNOW they are sending parts >out through the squisher, and that resistors etc will >probably make it... Executive decisions being what they >are, probably any order under $3 that looks skinny gets >to play "dodge the squisher". >-Roman > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body