;-( ... sob .... I thinks dead .... I bought it two years ago . A LM052L. 2x16 44780 type. Never found the correct datasheet . Soldered it with shaking hands , earthed iron , amongst anti-static packaging , in the middle of a large , empty room at the peak of a South African summer at high humidity. Attempted a few different circuits to set it up . That LCD tut from EPE , a parallel port circuit , and another . None ever worked. Upon switch on , previously , one row used to be barely - and I mean barely - visible for a few seconds and then thereafter nothing . "Contrast" was set by a trimmer 10 K across 5V . Some contrast . Also pumped a -3V voltage to it to see if it was one of _those_. But it never worked . Ever . I paid over $12 for it .. sob... How can I tell if it dead ? How do I move on ? Should I get another one or do I say never again ? I had such plans high hopes for it . Meant to make it dockable so that I could dock it to other projects I had in mind. Like the frequency meter / inductance/capacitance/resistance meter / alarm / timer etc . But are they to be stillborn as well ? Oh I feel like ending it all . I think I'll go flash a LED. Any ideas ? Vis Naicker -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.