> Right. I apologize if I made it sound like a beginner's chip. > I see it as a > PIC contender for the advanced hobbiest. The problem there is that even an advanced hobbyist is not likely to change to a 3.3V, non-DIP, etc. chip. Hobbyist / SOHO ineratia is bigger than for large-numbers developers. Most of them (me?, us?) can't even look over the PIC/AVR fence, while those are (compared to a 430) almost the same chips... Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------ http://www.voti.nl PICmicro chips, programmers, consulting -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics