> You mentioned "lines per hour". I am interested > in how it is measured (design, coding, debugging, > testing?) and what the normal lines per hour are > for the industry. For my argument it does not matter how it is measured, only that it is measured consistently. The most accepted way is to measure across the whole development cycle (maybe exclude requirements phase and field maintenance). Reporetd rates are some lines per hour (think of 8 or so). Before you stand up and say 'but I wrote a 100 lines program last hour': ask yourself where your design, test protocol, user manual etc. are. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------ http://www.voti.nl PICmicro chips, programmers, consulting -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics