On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:16, you wrote: > If you have to help, then they aren't free. You can just as well "help" to > get a good tool developed by paying for a commercial product. In the end > you get what you "pay" for either way. I agree Olin, but for a small business like mine, a little time spent writing a tool is not a lot of money, and I mean a little time, take the XML script I wrote for KATE to highlight the AVR, It took all of 2 hours from start to finish, and that was from someone who has never written a word of XML in her life :o). Sure some tasks like simulators etc are big and need 1000's of person hours, but if 1000 people each wrote a small module, it would take no more than 5 hours per person (assuming it would take one person 2000 hours). I pay for software that works and does what I need, but I also use free / reduced price software if it does the same job as $$$$$ software :o) Regards, Kat. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.A.Q. Electronics Software and Electronic Engineering Perth, Western Australia Phone +61 (0) 419 923 731 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics