Hee, hee, hee.  Well since they plaster "only 35 instructions
to learn" everywhere, I'm very annoyed that it takes me hours,
not minutes, to write a full application.  So perhaps they
should write the code for us too.  :-)  :-)  :-)

Cheers,
-Neil.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:47 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: PIC development STINKS!
>
>
> While we are on the subject.
> I think Microchip should give us free chips to. I'm tired of
> waiting for my
> wife to tell me it's ok to buy more electronic gizmo's.
>
> J/K OK
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wouter van Ooijen <wf@XS4ALL.NL>
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: PIC development STINKS!
>
>
> >> I say that PIC needs to offer free C compilers for their
> >> product, like some of their competitors, if they want to
> >> be #1!  It was my understanding that Microchip set out
> >> to differentiate itself from its competitors by offering
> >> free development environments for its MCU's (like
> >> MPLAB).  But today's toys are bigger, smarter, faster,
> >> and often times the level of abstraction that is offered
> >> by C is the preferable manner of doing things.  So why
> >> dosen't Microchip continue their initiative of offering
> >> real, usefull development tools (LIKE A C COMPILER) for
> >> free?  Its competitors sure do!  It is my bet that they
> >> get kickbacks from HIGH TECH not to do this!
> >
> >Whenever I heard someone telling (shouting?) that X should be provided
> >(for free of course!) I get a bit uneasy feeling over me. If that
> >someone realy feels that way, why not get a (free!) C compiler (free
> >Eagle Light, free datasheet, free PC/Linux C compiler, freeDOS, free
> >...) and *write* that stuff you feel should be 'freely available'? BTW
> >this remark applies for X = compiler, design, FAQ, (beginners) manual,
> >etc. I'm sure James will gladly host whatever free stuff is produced!
> >
> >Wouter
> >(probably also speaking for a few other free-stuff-providers)
> >
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