I believe that some are missing the point. For example, Atmel provides a free C compiler. And I noticed that no one argued that this was indeed Microchip's original intention: to offer free development tools to get as many people using their product as possible. Someone mentioned 'why would microchip want to go and provide a free compiler for a hobbiest'. That was a valid thought. But there are tons of small business, entrepreneurs, and mom 'n pop places out there that could develop higher demands for these Microchip product lines if they were provided additional tools (LIKE A C COMPILER). But they don't because the only C compiler that is worth a darn (High Tech) is around $1k! Maybe some of you other (smart butts) are right: "I make your skin crawl because I am just another hobbiest who wants something free" and " I think they should give their chips away for free too". But while you guys were making childish attacks, I was merely asking a valid question. It would be right along with Microchip's stated initiative to offer as many free development tools as possible. This was there model. Until they found out that they could make money on that too! Microchip did give out a free C compiler at one time, for a very short time. Now, Microchip will sell a C compiler for its 18Fxxxx parts! I was just throwing out the observation that they are going back on their original business model. I suggest that this is out of corporate greed. And Yes, I was soliciting for everyones thoughts on the matter. But if childish remarks are the best intellectual response that you can respond with, then please don't waste everyone's time :). > Oooooooooh - so all those hundreds of PIC16C72A 's that I've just bought for > selling on ;-) weren't a waste of money after all :) > > You've just made my day Rajiv > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rajiv Thakur" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:17 PM > Subject: [PIC] 16F628 vs 16F84 vs 16C72 A+24C08 > > > > The debate on 16F84 vs 16F628 has been interesting. I wish to add another > > dimension ie of 16C72 A (28 pin) + external flash memory of 24C08. > > > > 16C72A+24C08 is cheaper than 16F628 and is cheaper than 16F84. It has a > > program memory double than of 16F84 and also gives you 6 additional ports > as > > compared to 16F84 + AD converters+PWM . (8 additional ports C0-C7 less 2 > > ports to communicate with external flash memory). > > > > All the programs on 16F84 run on 16C72A except that the subroutine to > > write/read external 24C08 needs to be different. > > > > Niel and Baj - Await your critique on this. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rajiv Thakur > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics