This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0304_01C233D0.70FE3FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > you can get the real resistance using: > > R4 + R5 = 24K => Ra > Then > Ra*R3/(Ra+R3) = 8 => Rb > Then > R1 + R2 + Rb = 32K => RE (efetive resistance) Great, now I'm going to have to go through all the trouble of working out the Kirchoff's Voltage Law (KVL) equations for this. First apply an arbitrary voltage to the circuit. It doesn't matter what it is. See the attached schematic for labling The equations for the current in the loops are as follows: V-( I1(R1+R3) - I2R1 - I3R3) = 0 - -(-I1R1 + I2(R1+R2+R5) - I3R5) = 0 - -(-I1R3 - I2R5 + I3(R3+R4+R5)) = 0 Converting this to a convenient form for matrix calculations, you get (As with ascii art, this must be viewed in a monospaced font to look right) [V] [I1] [R1+R3, -R1, -R3] [0] = [I2] * [-R1, R1+R2+R5, -R5] [0] [I3] [-R3, -R5, R3+R4+R5] You may follow the calculations through if you wish, but, here are my results: Applying an abitrary voltage of 3V to the 12k grid that was originally shown, we get: [3] [I1] [24k, -12k, -12k] [0] = [I2] * [-12k, 36k, -12k] [0] [I3] [-12k, -12k, 36k] - From that, my result matrix is: [I1] [250uA] [I2] = [125uA] [I3] [125uA] I1 is the current of interest. for determining the thevenin resistance. In this case it is: R = V/I1 Which is: 3V/250uA Which is: 12k Which is the response I originally posted. 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