>If you've lately tried to buy an Air Compressor you'll find >that the current crop can now do the impossible and generate more >horsepower than the circuit breaker can pass in the form of current. >One of the large Department Store Chains started a new way of measuring >horsepower a while ago and now it's the norm. > this capacitor start motor will draw for a few cycles on >startup well beyond the rated current and before the slow blow circuit >breaker pops and that's how you get a 5HP 115VAC air compressor. I should have come to you guys originally... :) This is right in line with one of my current favorites. Computer speakers. I was tearing apart one such specimen and after laughing about the 80W rating on the box, just for fun I tried the disreputable technique of multiplying the open-circuit power supply voltage times the theoretical short-circuit current through the collector resistor (asuuming a 0-ohm transistor) and the most I could get was 2-3 watts. Now, in the 70's the equally respectable game evolved like this: Take an amplifier with a 12.5 watt rms output. Well, we all know that to get from rms power to peak power we can multiply by 1.4 so now it's a 17.5 W amp. The next guy say,s "well, there's peak, and then there's peak-to-peak, so really we have to double that and it's a 35 W amp. Finally, it's a Stereo amp so you've got TWO channels...70 W. And that's before the salesmen even got their hands on the specs. Next came the Institute of High Fidelity, to give it that official veneer and relieve us of the necessity of actually verifying any parameters. I don't know if they're still around, but the generic term "peak music power" also caught on. I ignored all this until recently (with those 80-watt desktop jobs) but the other day I saw an ad for a complete computer system and one of the little extras was a 1000W speaker system. As in kilowatt. I think it's time to discuss this a little :) By the way, I got suspicious with the 80-watters because the audio connector had only two wires. The innards contained ONE three-transistor amp, with the pair of speakers wired in SERIES. No wonder the balance control on the computer seemed funny... Barry -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.