That is not entirely correct. Taking H from water, for instance, requires more energy than it gives out when it recombines back into water, as you state. However, nearly all modern fuels are hydrocarbons, and it takes significantly less energy to break hydrogen from, say, methane, propane, even liquid fuels such as diesel and gasoline than it takes to break it from water. The crackers they use to break heavier oils up to lighter fuels could probably be modified to produce a larger amount of hydrogen than they currently do. Many fuel cells in the near future will depend on two major systems, one to break gas piped to the home up into hydrogen, and the actual fuel cell that uses the hydrogen. Methane and other fuels can be produced from bacteria and rotting vegitation, so it is possible to have cheaply acquired hydrogen. And if there were a larger market for it (as I suspect there may be in the future) then someone would come up with an even cheaper way to produce it. You can think of hydrogen as merely energy storage, but you might as well go all the way to defining your base (zero) state (such as water) and saying that anything that can be broken down to the zero state and give off energy is energy storage and therefore dangerous. Hydrogen is simply at a very high potential with reference to the ground state, and has a much stronger reaction when brought to the ground state - that's what makes it dangerous, but also exactly why it's so much more useful than other 'energy storage' materials which are at a much lower potential. It's like comparing lithium ion rechargable batteries with nicad. They tend to be more fragile to overcharging, and it's difficult to get them bare without assuring the manufacturer that you know how to handle them - but their density is so much larger that I doubt the venerable nicad will be around for more than a few years. -Adam Brooke Clarke wrote: >Hydrogen is not a source of energy. It is an energy storage method like a battery. You can not drill into the ground and get hydrogen. The energy you get by burning hydrogen is about the same as the energy it takes to separate the hydrogen out of water. > >All the energy storage methods are dangerous in that they contain energy that might be released in an accident. Whether it's a battery, a gyroscope, liquid fuel or a fuel gas they all contain energy. > >Have Fun, > >Brooke Clarke >http://www.prc68.com > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics >(like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > >. > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics