It sounds like fuel cells will help save the environment, but will it?
Fuel cell waste is water and maybe heat, but what does it take to make
Hydrogen? (well, maybe not make, but separate it from other stuff).

Some of the small lab kits that just demonstrate how fuel cells work
claimed to work using some chemical combinations that I am frankly not
familiar with (I'm no alchemist).

Would waste products from the refining of hydrogen be worse for the
environment than petroleum based internal combustion?




On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Justin Grimm wrote:

> I'd be interested in your device too, Peter
>
> Justin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter L. Peres [mailto:plp@ACTCOM.CO.IL]
> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2002 7:48
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Hydrogen Powered Cars
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Matthew Fries wrote:
>
> >I have always wondered if it would be feasible to provide hydrogen to a
> >fuel cell from electrolysis. Would it take more (or at least as much)
> >power to produce the hydrogen than you would get from a fuel cell?
>
> It would take MORE.
>
> >Also, I have heard 2 stories about fuel cells.
> >
> >One is: you provide the cell with hydrogen and oxygen and get water and
> >electricity.
>
> Yes
>
> >The other is: You provide the cell with water, and it separates it into
> >Hydrogen and oxygen, and you also get some electricity.
>
> No. You supply some electricity to do that. Also, fuel cells built for
> making electricity are built different than those built to separate water
> into H2 and O2. So you can't just use one for both operations.
>
> >Now, I don't know how accurate the second cell story is, but it would make
> >sense to simply stick them back to back, and get all the electricity you
> >want from a puddle....
>
> Yes, but I have plans for a device that generates free electricity and
> will work forever. Please contact me privately.
>
> Peter
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