Been digging thru old boxes and I found "B.O.B.", which is an acronym for "Bright Organization of Bulbs"... http://www.avn-tech.com/stuff/moving_message_display.jpg This was my senior project in college, back in 1992. It's an 8051-based moving-message display system, with a Windows (3.1) interface that had a (message-display) simulator. Was teamed up with another person who did the Windows programming. I did the hardware. This was when I "invented" the idea of surface-mounting IC's on the boards that I etched, and there are actually complete circuits on the backs of some of those boards. A bit dusty, and some damages, but I'm so thrilled, especially since I'm back in the digital electronics hobby lately. Woo-hooooo! Cheers, -Neil. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.