> Is it possible to have 4 fans on the 4 corners of a platform facing down/up > and spining them in separate directions ie the fans diagonaly opposed > spining the same direction and the fans opposite spining opposite. The > direction and control could be achieved varying the speed of 2 fans. > > I appreciate the difficulties in getting some control but it should be fun > trying to keep out of its way. It certainly is. But getting fans with "opposite" blades would be harder. Most fans of a given type will have the same rotation. I have not ever thought about which way fans turn but odds are the whole industry does it the same (Murphy says). Have a look at the gizmo copter to see what they do. Note that the motors draw 96 amps :-) Gizmo copter home page http://www.gizmocopter.org/ Copter http://www.gizmocopter.org/elj-contest-200108/ ERPS home page http://www.erps.org/ Join ERPS list http://cube.erps.org/email/join.html Also, with 4 distributed fans I feel the affect of all one way torque may be less (but this sounds like heresy). Various 'copters have been built with counterrotating rotors - the 1st really successful one was the twin rotor pre WW2 Focke Wulfe FW61 famously flown in 1936 by female test pilot Hanna Reitsch inside the Deutschlandhalle sports stadium in Berlin. FW61 http://www.germanvtol.com/fockeachgiles/fa61folder/fa61.html http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/fw-61-r.html Jolly green giant does this too AFAIK. Also AFAIK it turns by altering relative speeds of two rotors t get torque differential.. http://www.jollygreen.org/Stories/orgins_of_the_name_jolly_green_g.htm GGJ search & rescue ('nam and elsewhere) http://www.jollygreen.org/ History of copters with many pictures http://www.helis.com/pioneers/ Back to work .... :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu