Hello chaps, I've been looking through the archives, but see no mention of a programmer capable of programming he 18c/f xxx series controller. The software i currently use is prog84 and this will be a major rewrite to get it to work with both the 16f84 and the 18f452. Any advice or code to share ? oh, yes, it needs to run on linux Regards John Ward -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu