>Jim > >Your site mention that the Wrap13 "programs ALL PICs (except 17Cxx >family.)". Does it program 12F675 and 16F876A ? Um, that's WARP-13 not WRAP-13, sounds to close to CRAP-13. ;-) The answer is yes it does both these and the 18Fxxx as well. Also, in answer to your other post, if you are using a "tait style" programmer like the P16PRO then the changes for these pics to not too difficult and maybe someone will offer a software driver very shortly. There are a number of people providing software for these generic programmers and if you know what you are doing you can mix 'n' match programmers and drivers and save yourself any further cost. I cannot offer any further comment here though... Yes, you were right the picstart plus does not support these pics at this time. BTW. I am replying from the piclist archive so sorry if my replies don't follow in a thread as it appears in the archive. Regards, Jim >Thanks, > >Tal > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim Robertson > > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:47 PM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: Re: [PIC] PICALLW definitions for 16F876A and 12F675 > > > > > > Changing device definition tables will do nothing to help program > > these PICs. Well _maybe_ the 12F6xx can be fudged by certain not > > the 16F87xA as these use difference commands for programming, > > end programming and config programming. > > > > Unless the PICALLW has changed radically since I last looked , these > > commands are not part of the device config file, they are internally > > "firmwired" > > in the firmware so new firmware would be required. > > > > Personally I do not believe there is any programmer that will not require > > new firmware and/or software for the 16F87xA parts. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jim Robertson > > NEWFOUND ELECTRONICS > > > > > > ______________________________ > > MPLAB compatible PIC programmers. > > NEWFOUND ELECTRONICS P/L > > http://www.newfoundelectronics.com > > ______________________________ > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body ______________________________ MPLAB compatible PIC programmers. NEWFOUND ELECTRONICS P/L http://www.newfoundelectronics.com ______________________________ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu