At 09:54 AM 7/11/02 -0700, John Dammeyer wrote: >Hi guys, > >I've been looking at various PIC projects that are published out on the >WEB and I find there is a major inconsistency with the reset circuits. >Some folks use reset chips and others just tie the MCLR to Vcc through a >resistor. Given that the MCLR/VPP gets the 13V programming voltage are >there special reset chips that will handle that? Is there even a need >with the PIC to have a reset chip? I *always* have some form of reset circuit in my products - usually a combination of time and supply voltage operated. I'm told that the higher end PICs don't require external reset anymore but, so far, projects that use higher end PICs require some form of fail-safe and/or eeprom and I wind up adding an external watchdog/supervisor/reset controller/eeprom chip anyways. Simple PICs (12c508) absolutely require a proper reset circuit if they are fed from a mains supply and you are shipping thousands of them all over the world. I don't do ICSP with the small PICs - the code does not change often enough to justify it. They get batch programmed before they are installed on the PCB. I therefore don't have to worry about protecting components connected to MCLR. Projects using an external watchdog can be programmed through the watchdog chip's socket. The watchdog I use is the Xicor X5043: 512 bytes of eeprom, watchdog, reset controller, power supply supervisor. I use RB6,7 to talk to the Xicor chip (and all the shift registers on the card), MCLR is tied to one pin of that chip. It is socketed: I just plug the ICSP cable into that socket. dwayne -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 18 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2002) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads