> I really don't know the answer but maybe you could use a spectrum analyzer > and a noise source. This will not tell you the impedance but you should be > able to improve your circuit by trial and error. It may also show you any > resonances in band, and noise peaks. A dense 'fence rail' signal may > replace the noise generator and make the noise floor easier to see on the > specan when you tweak the circuit. Well, I have been developing a sort of a theory of operation when working with analogue circuits: Never use trial and error where calculations will do the job. So, I admit that I don't particularly like the idea of using trial and error to solve this problem. Aside from that, I didn't list the noise figure meter because I didn't think it was relevant. The problem I've had with it, though, is it measures consistently higher than I expect. For example: I have an antenna pre-amp with a rated NF of 0.5dB. It has 50-ohm in and 50-ohm out ports. When I hook it up to the NF meter, (which I have calibrated using a noise source and the same 2 cables off the noise source, only with a F-BNC to F-BNC connector, that I use with the antenna pre-amp) It gives me 11dB or so. Hardly an acceptable error. It's primarily for that reason that I didn't mention the NF meter. Anyways, got any clues on that one? --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu