Michael,

   If you'll stick with 16F628 or even with 16F87X, then in
some months you'll send postings "Is there any other PIC
that is better to start with than the 16F628 or 16F87X".
These guys  will anser you: "No doubt: 18FXXX"
So, why not to start with 18FXXX now?

Look at our local retail prices:
PIC16F628-20I/P   18LD 20MHZ 2K FLASH      $2.74
PIC16F877-20I/P   40 LD 20MHZ 8K FLASH      $6.00
PIC18F452-I/P       40 LD 40MHZ 16K FLASH   $5.78

Do you see 16F87X line are obsolete for starting with?
Do you see that for extra $2 for PIC18F452-I/P compared
to PIC16F628-20I/P you get the ability to invest your time
in things, you can use in future, not in garbage. When you
finished your playing, 18F452 will be priced much closer
to 16F628, even lower, may be.

   Good luck. Mike.



Michael Pettersson wrote:
> A couple of months ago I started playing with the PIC 16F84.
>
> Now after quite some time I will try to start playing with it again.
> Is there any other PIC that is better to start with than the F84.
> It shouldn't be to expensive.
>
> I also would like to have a ISP programmer for the PIC.
> Can I build one? Where can I find more information on this?
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Olin Lathrop replied:
> Yes.  Here are the three "universal hobby" PICs I recommend:
>
> 16F628 - 18 pin, more features and lower price than 16F84.
> 16F876 - 28 pin, full featured 16 family processor.
> 16F877 - 40 pin, same as 16F876 with more pins.
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Jennifer L. Gatza replied:
> For both of your questions, check out Byron Jeff's page at
> http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/.  He offers programmer
> schematics as well
> as a comparison of the F84 and F628.
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Byron A Jeff replied:
> The 16F628 is the ticket. Check out my comparison page:
>
http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F628.html

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