On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 03:01:23PM +0200, Michael Pettersson wrote:
> A couple of months ago I started playing with the PIC 16F84.
>
> Now after quite some time I will try to start playing with it again.
> Is there any other PIC that is better to start with than the F84.
> It shouldn't be to expensive.

The 16F628 is the ticket. Check out my comparison page:

http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F628.html

>
> I also would like to have a ISP programmer for the PIC.
> Can I build one? Where can I find more information on this?

Yes. If you can live without an I/O pin, then my Trivial Low Voltage Programmer
is one of the simplest to put together:

http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys

I recently added an ICSP version for the 16F628 here:

http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/proglvp-icsp.gif

It works when the 16F628 is set for internal RC operation and MCLR as an input
pin.

Hope this helps,

BAJ

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