For both of your questions, check out Byron Jeff's page at
http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/.  He offers programmer schematics as well
as a comparison of the F84 and F628.

(I'm surprised he hasn't said anything yet)  :)

Jen


> Is there any other PIC that is better to start with than the F84.
>
> I also would like to have a ISP programmer for the PIC.
> Can I build one? Where can I find more information on this?
>

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