A couple of months ago I started playing with the PIC 16F84. Now after quite some time I will try to start playing with it again. Is there any other PIC that is better to start with than the F84.=20 It shouldn't be to expensive. I also would like to have a ISP programmer for the PIC. Can I build one? Where can I find more information on this? /regards Michael Pettersson=20 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body