Brendan, I cannot fully agree with you: =20 > > PIC18F242-I/P is about $4 retail here in Ukraine. > > PIC16F628-20I/P is about $2.5 retail here in Ukraine. >=20 > $1.50 in batches of 25 works out to $37.50. Not so=20 > insignificant if you need several. When the fellow, who posted the message finished his=20 study, the difference will be different, probably negative. >=20 > > Extra $1.5 is not a big problem, particularly taking into > > account that when this fellow finished his study, 16FXXX > > line would be very probably considered obsolete, like > > 16F84 now. >=20 > There are still many 16FXXX that are being developed. Would=20 > Microchip still develop more of them if they were completely obsolete? I also wonder: Why Microchip did, does and probably will do=20 so many stupid things, being not fully kicked off the market? > > As for me, for new PIC-members generation should be > > recomended new(?) 18FXXX generation of PIC-chips. > > Memory space, speed, better different command set and > > so on. >=20 > Find me an 18FXXX chip with 8 pins. They can't replace the=20 > 12C5XX series, and due to their larger and more complex=20 >instruction set, they cannot replace the 16FXXX Why 18FXXX cannot replace the 16FXXX due to their larger=20 and more complex instruction set? Atmel AVR, TI MSP430=20 and others replaced them in dramatic manner just for this=20 reason. With no 18FXXX in small pin-number packages =20 Microchip will definitely be bitten to death. Look at AVR tiny=20 for example. I was wrong in some my last postings, so I apologize in=20 advance if I've missed something. Mike. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.