> Probably the webhost doesn't want anyone to ping it. Have you tried to ping > CNN.com? > Rick Nope, but I could ping www.google.com, so I'm not worried about that part. Usually if the webhost is blocking pings, you'll get a timeout, but it will still display the IP address, and then you can do a tracert to see where the fault actually is. But in this instance, it looks as though www.piclist.com doesn't have a DNS entry... (anymore?) I was on the PICList site yesterday, so I know that I *can* usually access it from here. --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu