Spehro, I'm trying to use SMD components. When I created the padstacks I did it by the method described in the help file. I went, select from spreadsheet then esc then new. Created it the size I wanted etc. The problem I having is the pad appears on all layers and since it's smd I want it only on the topmost layer. But I can't figure out how to delete the extra pad stacks. Thanks for all your help, Aaron -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics