Ok, this thread stops here. We've come way too off topic, and are now into personal comments. If you have negative things to say about someone, say it to them in a private email. Not everyone needs to know how you feel. Sorry about this, but I have a bad feeling about where this is heading. Thanks, Josh Koffman Admin 5 -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads