> > is it possible to demodulate a 38khz signal to get data using discretes > and> logics? > detector/demodulator plus associated gain control circuitry. To > reproduce this yourself with equal results would take a handful of > transistors or several op-amps and associated components in > each case. The size would be much larger and achieving > performance similar to the $2 part would not be trivial It isn't. I've tried and failed. But....I'd still like to do it one day for power consumption reasons. The 3-terminal types use around 3-5mA and the VCR can types 1-3mA, and both have just a few kHz bandwidth. It should be possible to make some thing with discretes and/or CMOS op-amps that uses the minimum of current. One particular application is waking a sleeping PIC with IR. I've managed it with PIR using a micro-current piezo sensor not with IR Data sheet showing gizzards of the IS1U60 http://faculty.plattsburgh.edu/stephen.linder/Academic/techLinks/dataSheets/ is1u60.pdf Very different from the internals of an SL486 IC, which requires a s...load of external components and doesn't really perform any better PIC remote control using the IS1U60 http://www.picbasic.co.uk/Article.pdf -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads