1. You can use my Kit 96 withOUT any hardware modifications to program the 18Fxxx chips. You just have to use the latest picallw.exe program version which you can download from http://www.picallw.com or from http://www.kitsrus.com/zip/paw012c.zip 2. You can use my Kit 144 to also program the 18Fxxx chips but a hardware modification is required. Again this is listed in the new version software and I also outline it on page 4 of the documentation for K144 which you may get from http://www.kitsrus.com/pdf/k144.pdf 3. Bojan Dobaj plans to release a new firmware version within 3 months which will not require this hardware modification for K144 or for K117. 4. Programming Voltage for K144. Some people have complained that finding power supplies to provide 17VDC is difficult. Note we make Kit 135 which will convert a DC input voltage of 6V - 12V from a wall-wart up to the 17VDC needed by K144 and K96. We have looked at putting the step-up on board the K144 but we believe that most professionals already have a power supply which gives 18VDC or more. Such power suppliers are very cheap and readily available. Putting the step-up circuit on the programmer itself we think is an unnecessary addition. Instead we are looking at adding USB support to our programmers. regards, Peter Crowcroft DIY Electronics (HK) Ltd PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong Factory: voice 852-2304 2250 Fax: 852-2729 1400 M/F, 97 Fuk Wa Street, Sham Shui Po Home: voice 852-2720 0255 Mobile: 6273 2049 Web: http://www.kitsrus.com Email: peter@kitsrus.com Yahoo Messenger 'peter5999' with webcam Pay with Paypal: peter@kitsrus.com ------------------------------------------------------------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu