In my experience, pretty much any of the commonly available 3 pin ceramic resonators work at 4 and 10 MHz. I'm now using the ZTT series from Digikey on 18C452 and 18F452 with the clock multiplier. Works fine. At 16 MHz, however, I found anything but murata to be unreliable. In one product where we went surface mount, the surface mount 4 MHz resonator with caps from Digikey was unreliable with a 16f628. We surface mounted leaded devices until we got the board characterized by murata. Harold FCC Rules Online at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules Lighting control for theatre and television at http://www.dovesystems.com Reach broadcasters, engineers, manufacturers, compliance labs, and attorneys. Advertise at http://www.hallikainen.com/FccRules/ . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.