Hi Olin and guys. My 2c...

I'm very satisfied with Mathias emulator. // www.tech-tools.com
Currently it supports 12xxx/16xxx. I don't know if they planning
to release 17xxx family support as well.

WBR Dmitry.




Olin Lathrop wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a good C / Asm / source level debugger for 12F675 (8 pin)
> > and 16F877 PIC's.
> >
> > I looked around at the ICE and ICD from Microchip and ICEPIC 2 but could
> not
> > find much information about an integrated C/Asm environment with source
> > level debugging. Having minimal interference with the device operation and
> > resources and a real time trace memory is a plus.
> >
> > Any recommendation and suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
>
> If this is for hobby use, I hear the in circuit debugger (ICD) is a
> reasonable value.  It does require some pins and some program memory
> locations.  If this for a commercial project where you can't afford to fart
> around, you need the ICE-2000.  It is a true in circuit emulator that does
> not use up any pins, program memory, etc.  You plug it into the circuit as
> if it were the chip, and the other end connects to a parallel port.  The
> parallel port part is a bit of a pain, but fortunately Microchip is coming
> out with a new ICE that will be USB (finally!).  The new ICE will be
> required for the dsPICs.  I don't think they are out yet, and I'm not sure
> they are backward compatible with the older PICs.  All these systems are
> properly integrated into MPLAB.  You can step thru code just like you would
> with the simulator, except that the code is actually being executed on the
> target system.  The ICE-2000 has a 32K instruction trace buffer with
> reasonably decent triggering logic.  It also includes an 8 line logic
> analyzer that samples once per instruction.
>
> An ICE-2000 setup comes in three parts, the ICE, a processor module, and a
> device adapter.  The ICE is common for all setups, and different
> combinations of processor modules and device adapters are used to cover the
> full line of PICs and most of the package types.  See the line card.  We
> have two ICE-2000s here with lots of different processor modules and device
> adapters.  I wouldn't consider doing PIC development without them.  The
> setup for a single PIC is around $1,200, although the official street price
> may be up to twice that.  Still, it doesn't take much wasted time to pay
> that back.

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