Lyle, Thanks for the link, but as I hit the link, it popped up 4 (not 1) window. 3 of those were ads. I hate sites that do that to me. Cheers, -Neil. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Lyle Hazelwood Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:37 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Tait --> ICSP. Ready, set... There is excellent coverage of hardware designs consideration for ICSP in the help file that comes with PICALLW. www.picallw.com Some of it is software specific, but the hardware considerations should apply to most programmers I think it's under Technical Information>In Circuit System Programming(ICSP)>ICSP and Picall/P16Pro Lyle Hazelwood -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics