Anyway, I don't object to the discussion of non-PIC processors at all, as long as the messages are properly tagged and it doesn't turn into a mini non-PIC list long term. And I'm employed in a non-PIC-using role, my PIC use is for hobby and the occasional hired job. I just admin the list for fun. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A sick, sick man. :-) Thanks for all you do on that front. chuckc Dale -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads