I apologize. That was a quick and irrational reply that I made earlier, and I was actually upset at other issues when I made that post. After reading all that is included.. It is a fair deal. And I DID miss the AD tag. I was totally wrong in every way! My thoughts were that aside from purchasing the PIC chip, all of the other parts are very cheap, or even free if you invest a little time. RS232 converter chips and others are free from Maxim! But there again, I am a real do it yourself person with a vast collection of parts. I take this for granted. ==> So, again... I hope that you will accept my apology Daniel! And sorry for wasting everyone else's time reading it! I know this is a huge change in tone from my last post, but I am actually glad there are people out there that offer better and more reasonable ($$) alternatives to the junk kits that Radio Shack provides! Regards, Brandon -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Daniel Rubin Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:17 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [AD]: PIC16F877 Boot Loader Kit (International Shipping) Brandon, I am sorry you are upset with the posting. From reading the intro to the list I thought posting ads was ok if you put [AD] in the subject. I think the cost of the kit is reasonable. If you were to purchase all the included parts in single item quantities it would probably cost you more than $19... not to mention the intangible costs for designing and supporting the boot loader. - Dan At 07:06 PM 6/25/02 -0400, you wrote: >Hey, what a rip off. Boot loaders are free, and its not hard for people to >find a pre-burned chip with one for a lot cheaper! Also, This list is not >here for commercial purposes or your own financial gain! -- Design Devices, http://www.designdevices.com PIC microcontroller programmers & tools, motor controllers and more! Ebay Deals: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=desig ndevices -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu