If you can still find it in a Google search then the C2C compiler= is adequate, though it doesn't do the 18F series. At the risk of incurring the wrath of others, if you wish to= email me off list, I do have a C compiler that will do the 16= and 18 series that I am willing for a small consideration to let= go. cdb@barnard.name -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 26/06/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu