Have you consider the PicStart from MicroChip ?  Around 200$ with power
supply and cable.

http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/tools/prog/index.htm

http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/tools/picmicro/program/picstart/index.ht
m

http://www.microchip.com/download/tools/picmicro/program/picstart/51034h.pdf

BTW, looks like they changed it enclosure to a clear one. Yuck.

Tal

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> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Erik Jacobs
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:03 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EE]: Xeltec Superpro280
>
>
> > If you have read the EEPROM programming specs of the 16F73, it's
> > essentially programmed the same way as 16F87x
>
> Last time I checked "essentially" wasn't a guarantee :)
>
> > I wager that even if the software doesn't support 16F73, you
> could program
> > it as though it's a 16f873/4 (same program memory size) with zero
> > modification.
>
> I save my wagers for sporting events.  If a manufacturer doesn't say their
> product supports it, I assume it doesn't.  I suppose I could email the
> manufacturer and get a definitive answer, but I'd rather just
> spend a little
> more money and have a guaranteed thing as well as the ability to program
> lots of other stuff.
>
> I just said to someone else in a PM -- it's always good to have a
> good tool.
> Even if you don't plan to use all of its functionality, you may need it
> someday, your friend may need it someday, and it gives you the
> ability to do
> things that you might not have even planned to do.
>
> Warp-13 looks pretty promising, but someone just yesterday (2 days ago?)
> complained about a problem with one and was greeted with "buy a real
> programmer" as a reply.  Now I come along and ask about a real programmer,
> and am told to go on the cheap.  What gives? :)
>
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