Yeah, yeah... no applause, please, just somebody send me a design for a VHF (174MHz) RF power amp giving 4W out from 100mW in, costing less than $2 for parts in qty. 500, using as little board space as possible and running off 13.8VDC or 3-4 AA NiCD batteries... actually I think I have something workable, but only testing will tell for sure. I get enough free help from really, really talented people to make this worthwhile. Dale -- "Curiosity is the very basis of education and if you tell me that curiosity killed the cat, I say only the cat died nobly." - Arnold Edinborough -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body