http://www.xeltek.com/sp280.htm Opinions? Experiences? Thoughts? Comments? I'm in need of a programmer (I have none, and if you're following the rest of my postings/threads you'll realize I'm a relative noob), and am looking for something (primarily) with good PIC support -- this appears to support 16F7X which is one of the chips I'm considering using... and this programmer seems to be one of the better ones that supports it. -Erik -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.