> 2. use opto isolator to drive your replay never connect direct So I would assume something like NEC/CEL PS2502-4 (Quad opto isolator darlington) should work fine? I'd still need 4 diodes to put across the coils for when the field collapses... would any simple diode array IC work? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.