thanks guys. the more more we get into this thing the worse it looks. mt brother did a whole lot of research into using image sensor chips direct. the show stopper with most of them is the co-processor they use. When I saw Uchip's 765 listed as "USB trained", I thought "problem solved!". Shuks .. maybe some things just aren't meant to be :( Debbie http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu