I got my hands on a free dozen of 12c509's but I'm missing the .inc file for picbasic pro compiler. I think they are 12c509.inc and M12c50x.inc. I don't know where they're gone or if I ever had them but I can't do a thing without them. Does anyone know where to download them or can they be sent to me. thanks Chet -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu