Well, I've fried 'em, reversed the power supply polarity on 'em, powered things that overtaxed the port, and had PIC's come through, but this one takes the cake. I've got a PIC here that lost a bus fight, port RB2 tried to go low when it was connected to 5V through a solder bridge. The rest of the PIC went merrily about it's way, but port RB2 was transmogrified into a permanent 14 ohm resistor. I could hook the circuit up to my 5V power supply, where it drew some 350 mA, but the rest of the PIC chugged along, lighting it's LEDs and firing it's relays like nothing was wrong. As soon as I put the circuit in my application, the board's power supply (which was designed to provide a few milliamps) wimped out, and nothing would happen. A PIC can work just fine after one of it's port pins commits kamakaze. Devilishly hard to troubleshoot though. "It works fine over here on the bench, but as soon as I install it in a unit it croaks --?&%$#!!!" -- Lawrence Lile Sr. Project Engineer Salton inc. Toastmaster Div. 573-446-5661 Voice 573-446-5676 Fax -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body