Hi, I also agree the P16PRO is the best solution for low budget. I built the programmer myself and use the registered version of the software; ANY of ISP-capable 16xxx PICs could be programmed fine. It is also fast. It solvers also the dilemma which PIC to choose. Regards, Imre +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity | | to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or | | privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or | | other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this | | information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient | | is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the | | sender and delete the material from any computer. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Magnus von Rosen wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm trying to learn to program PICs, and it seems that the 16F84A is the way to go. > Now, I don't have the budget (student) to buy a prebuilt PICSTART or something like that. > I bought the Myke Predko book with the "El cheapo"-PCB and built that, didn't work. I really wish I could make it work, but it seems impossible. > I also tried building the "JDM"-programmer, but I can't get that to work either. > > Does anyone have a suggestion for a programmer and compatible and working software, that will run in Windows XP (preferably) and costs less than $50? Also, it MUST be compatible with 16F84A, some of the ones I find on the net doesn't clearly state the F or the A... > I'm quite handy with the soldering iron, but if the electronics doesn't work, I usually don't know what to do. > > Thanks for any advice! > > Greetings from Sweden, > Magnus von Rosen, Software engineering student with too little electronic know-how to find errors. > > pt98mvo@student.bth.se > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu