www.melabs.com look at the epic. regards victor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus von Rosen" To: Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: [PIC] Need advice: Working solution fvr F84A programmer & SW. Howdy, I'm trying to learn to program PICs, and it seems that the 16F84A is the way to go. Now, I don't have the budget (student) to buy a prebuilt PICSTART or something like that. I bought the Myke Predko book with the "El cheapo"-PCB and built that, didn't work. I really wish I could make it work, but it seems impossible. I also tried building the "JDM"-programmer, but I can't get that to work either. Does anyone have a suggestion for a programmer and compatible and working software, that will run in Windows XP (preferably) and costs less than $50? Also, it MUST be compatible with 16F84A, some of the ones I find on the net doesn't clearly state the F or the A... I'm quite handy with the soldering iron, but if the electronics doesn't work, I usually don't know what to do. Thanks for any advice! Greetings from Sweden, Magnus von Rosen, Software engineering student with too little electronic know-how to find errors. pt98mvo@student.bth.se -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body