Thanks Dave I'll try what you suggest.. The reason I use this 3pins ECMs'is because the other kind (2pin) are not so sensitive. I try them in some circuits but the sensitive was poor. Regards Tal Bejerano AMC - ISRAEL -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dave Tweed Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:12 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Identify ECM pins Tal -- > I am holding 2 Electret condenser microphones but can't tell the pinouts. > I assume the pin that connected to the body it's ground. Yes. > but I know one is +v and the other one is output. > are there a way to know for sure? The only key difference between the two is a resistor -- the load resistor of the internal FET preamplifier. Try applying a voltage (+5VDC or so) to one pin through a 2200 ohm resistor. If both pins measure the same voltage with a high-impedance voltmeter, then the pin you're powering is the output pin and the unconnected pin is the power pin. If the unconnected pin is a lower voltage than the one you're powering, then you're powering the power pin (you can take the resistor out now), and the other pin is the output pin. Many ECMs have only one pin besides the ground. This simplifies the wiring, but you have to supply an external load resistor. -- Dave Tweed -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body