Have you tried the piclist ? Tony Kubek has a PC KeyBoard interface with a F84 I've built this and it works great. http://www.piclist.org/techref/microchip/picboard.htm Adam Davis has Fr. Tom McGahee's Keypad Tutorial at http://ubasics.com/adam/pic/archive.shtml look for FRKEYPAD.ZIP This is a great tutorial on building a 4*4 keypad interface also using a F84. I have also built this project. Both of these could easily be converted to a PIC16F628. >I am looking for 4*4 keyboard, but $10 each and need >lots coding to input characters. some thing likes, phone. >but PC keyboard, is much better choice? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.