Well, a company who has investors is generally expected to make money. They make money by developing IP and then using methods to profit off the IP. So, strictly speaking, I was correct about the lining their pocket thing. I suppose there are people who believe these copy protection methods are not meant to protect their profitability, but I like to ignore the masses when it's convenient for my own nefarious purposes. :-) I made two mistakes - I said "Everyone agrees..." which is just propaganda, and "line their pockets" which can be interpretted as ill-gotten gains. They are not doing anything (or much) illegal, so I probably should have been nicer. "If you can't say something nice, mumble it under your breath..." ;-) -Adam Jim wrote: > "but everyone agrees it's to line their pockets." > >I feel the pressure of the barrel against my temples >even now ... > >(Meaning I can feel their 'gun to my head' forcing me to buy > their box and cartridges.) > >Not! > >What ever happened to protecting intellectual property? > >Jim > >(PS. Please note that I changed the topic tag to 'OT'.) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "M. Adam Davis" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:26 PM >Subject: Re: [PIC]: Xbox security has been broken? > > > > >>Makers of the game boxes (Sony for the PS2, Nintendo for the GameCube, >>Microsoft for the XBOX) all charge developers to sell games for their >>platform. This can range from $1 to $20 per cartridge/dvd/cd. They go >>to some pretty interesting extremes to make sure that people don't >>develop games that run on their boxes without paying. One of them runs >>the game DVDs backwards, so the DVDs have to be specially pressed, one >>changed/extended the DVD such that a regular pressed DVD couldn't be >>used to play a game. They also use methods to prevent japanese games >>from playing on american sold boxes and vice versa. They claim copy >>protection, but everyone agrees it's to line their pockets. >> >>These 'mods' allow the ambitious to play out of region games, games >>encoded on regular DVD, DVD-R, DVD-RW, CD, etc. They can also allow >>custom code development without paying through the nose for the official >>development kit. >> >>-Adam >> >>rad0 wrote: >> >> >> >>>what does this mean really? Are people trying to steal the games >>>or are they trying to use the box for other than game purposes?? >>> >>> >>>I don't have a game box, just wondered what this is about. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body