I have a few wall wart type desulfators and have brought dozens of DEAD lead-acid batteries back to life. I keep one on my bus batteries and on my 20kw diesel generator for maintenance purposes. Batteries are over 5 years old and work just like new. http://www.vdcelectronics.com/ are the commercial ones...... http://www.shaka.com/~kalepa/desulf.htm if you want to roll your own.... Rick Lee Jones wrote: > >> - this isn't like trying to charge a dead, stone cold > >> Lead-Acid cell ... > > > Aren't dead Pb batteries dead forever ? I've always been led to > > believe that significant sulphate formation is irreversible, and > > leaving Pb batteries discharged for any length of time is unwise > > People doing home power in the US (alternative energy, like solar) > claim 4 out of 5 lead-acid batteries die because of sulfation of > the plates and are recoverable. Without minimum daily exercise, > the plates will sulfate (gradual crystalization of electrolyte > solution; reduces electrical potential and increases resistance). > > Historic technique to desulfate a battery was to force overcharge > every so often. This wastes energy (which solar/wind/etc people > don't like). And, when trying to revive a heavily desulfated > battery can easily overheat it (damaging the battery, usually > with a bulged case). > > There's a battery desulfator technique using "ringing" of the > electrolyte & plates at the resonant frequency of the battery > (circa 3.6MHz for 12V car battery). Circuit to do so was > published in Home Power magazine #77, June/July 2001, see: > > www.humboldt1.com/~michael.welch/desulfator.pdf > > The "ringing" causes the crystalized sulfate to redisolve from > the plates into the electrolyte solution. This can take a few > weeks to a couple months using the desulfator circuit and a > trickle charger. > > I'm starting some experimentation now on reviving a couple of > car batteries. > > Besides the home brew route, there are kits and commercial units. > > References include various patents which can be found via IBM's > patent server. > > Lee Jones > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads