Hmm EPE read this site, and if you look at a recent post on their own= site you'll see they are extremely protective of their copyright= (and that was concerning a free wall chart). I subscribe to EPE email me off list. bodgy -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 02/06/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads