I didn't sew the original post, but in my country there is some factories that open the pack in a special way and replace the dead cells. I did it 3 year ago with electric drill and the batteries work very good until now. Regards Tal Bejerano AMC - ISRAEL -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jinx Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 12:19 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Laptop battery fading > I also immediately apply nominal charging current > right after the zap - usually by using a suitable > current limiting resistor in series with the 20 V > charging supply. This resistor also serves to > limit the charging current of the cap when the > 20 V supply is turned-up. An alternative to zapping is that you can apply a high (eg 15V) voltage to the cell while keeping a very close eye on a voltmeter. The cell will sit there for a short while, perhaps a few seconds, perhaps a minute, soaking it up until the voltage across it will rise suddenly. That's a good time to take the 15V away very quickly;-) Hopefully the cell should take a normal charge after that. If this technique doesn't work, zap it -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads