Between my 2 main batteries, and 1 aux battery, I used to get over 8 total hours of laptop usage, but that's down to less than 1 hour nowadays, as the battery life is fading. I once invested some time in manually fully discharging and fully recharging one battery about 5 times, and it pick up a lot of life, but again it's fading. Used to do that with model airplane nicads, but it apparently worked for these Li-Ion's. Discharging involved leaving the laptop on until it warns of battery failure and then puts itself to sleep, then I'd re-awaken it and let it drain some more. At some point, it just died. Then I would put it back to charge fully. Needless to say, I didn't like letting the OS die un-gracefully. There's got to be a better way -- is there some form of battery cycler that I can purchase or build that will work for these (IBM Thinkpad 600x) batteries? Cheers, -Neil. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads