Vasile Surducan wrote: >10k and 2pF ( typically for 1N4148 ) means a glitch of about >10 exp+3 x 2 exp -12 =3D 20nS . 1) I=B4d say a *typically* 20ns glitch worries me. We must use max, not= typical value here. 2) For the second case i wrote about, (diode recovery), the glitch will be= the recovery time PLUS this *typical* 20ns. >You haven't that fast cmos gate to feel this glitch ( 4000 series at >3V...15V ) so don't worry. Motorola datasheet 4017, Clock pulse width: typical 125ns@5v, 35ns@15V Example: if that 20ns calculated typical glictch is actually 30ns on 10% of= your produced units, and in 10% of theese units there is cirquits that= react to lower than that clock pulse, then 1% of produced units fail... /Morgan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics